Rayner speaks about Eris, the goddess of inclusion, with Charlie from the Tredje Huset podcast. Tredje Huset is a Swedish podcast that believes that the purpose of education is not to fill a vessel but to light a fire. We talk about the controversial politics of Eris around the time of her discovery in 2005 and why this archetype is essential for the resolution of the metacrisis and the evolution of consciousness in the 21st century. Join and listen.